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		<title>By: fathima</title>
		<link>http://run.likethewind.ca/2008/malcolmx/comment-page-1/#comment-8135</link>
		<dc:creator>fathima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the conference was last week and i keep meaning to write up how that went, because it&#039;s pertinent to some revisions i want to make some of the things i said here. but my brain is very tired, so this is me making a mental note to come back to this later soon. i&#039;ll probably end up procrastinating on my essay on this by writing here anyway. as usual.

&lt;strong&gt;dawud&lt;/strong&gt;, it&#039;s funny. i&#039;ve been having strange attacks of nostalgia for jeddah, too. i don&#039;t know why. i think it&#039;s partly that i just want to move around a bit. and maybe a desire for good, clean, burning heat. but, yeah, strange indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the conference was last week and i keep meaning to write up how that went, because it&#8217;s pertinent to some revisions i want to make some of the things i said here. but my brain is very tired, so this is me making a mental note to come back to this later soon. i&#8217;ll probably end up procrastinating on my essay on this by writing here anyway. as usual.</p>
<p><strong>dawud</strong>, it&#8217;s funny. i&#8217;ve been having strange attacks of nostalgia for jeddah, too. i don&#8217;t know why. i think it&#8217;s partly that i just want to move around a bit. and maybe a desire for good, clean, burning heat. but, yeah, strange indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: rawi</title>
		<link>http://run.likethewind.ca/2008/malcolmx/comment-page-1/#comment-8133</link>
		<dc:creator>rawi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re. the question of sexism, i was too young to notice it when i read the autobiography for the first and only time. much later, however, i was quite disturbed to read a whole bunch of quotes in bell hooks&#039;s &quot;ain&#039;t i a woman.&quot; you may want to refer to it, though i can&#039;t remember if she offers much analysis specifically with respect to malcolm x.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re. the question of sexism, i was too young to notice it when i read the autobiography for the first and only time. much later, however, i was quite disturbed to read a whole bunch of quotes in bell hooks&#8217;s &#8220;ain&#8217;t i a woman.&#8221; you may want to refer to it, though i can&#8217;t remember if she offers much analysis specifically with respect to malcolm x.</p>
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		<title>By: dawud</title>
		<link>http://run.likethewind.ca/2008/malcolmx/comment-page-1/#comment-8128</link>
		<dc:creator>dawud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the book many years ago, before I became a muslim. I can&#039;t say that it&#039;s why I became a muslim, but it had an emotional effect on me in seeing the dynamic of self-change, reflection, and the honesty of his self-criticism in the book was much more powerful than the film portrayal of him as street thug become activist.

I would also have had the same dynamic influence me that you spoke of, from feeling very positive about Islam&#039;s views on race relations to feeling very disappointed - particularly when I travelled to, and lived in, Saudi Arabia; that Arabs could be just as racist as Americans - indeed, one black friend who grew up in DC and had roots in the American South said Saudi reminded him of how his parents and grandparents had described their lives in the south.

Cynicism is not what grabs me though, because I think that Malcolm was self-critical enough that he would have seen through much of that, just as he turned on Elijah Poole when he discovered his cynical manipulation of the NoI. Allah knows though.

As for feeling conflicted when muslims in the MSA, some of whom I know are less than critical of the tendencies towards racism amongst the muslim community, that&#039;s shared...

I&#039;m thinking of returning to Jeddah. Should I have my head checked?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the book many years ago, before I became a muslim. I can&#8217;t say that it&#8217;s why I became a muslim, but it had an emotional effect on me in seeing the dynamic of self-change, reflection, and the honesty of his self-criticism in the book was much more powerful than the film portrayal of him as street thug become activist.</p>
<p>I would also have had the same dynamic influence me that you spoke of, from feeling very positive about Islam&#8217;s views on race relations to feeling very disappointed &#8211; particularly when I travelled to, and lived in, Saudi Arabia; that Arabs could be just as racist as Americans &#8211; indeed, one black friend who grew up in DC and had roots in the American South said Saudi reminded him of how his parents and grandparents had described their lives in the south.</p>
<p>Cynicism is not what grabs me though, because I think that Malcolm was self-critical enough that he would have seen through much of that, just as he turned on Elijah Poole when he discovered his cynical manipulation of the NoI. Allah knows though.</p>
<p>As for feeling conflicted when muslims in the MSA, some of whom I know are less than critical of the tendencies towards racism amongst the muslim community, that&#8217;s shared&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of returning to Jeddah. Should I have my head checked?</p>
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		<title>By: fathima</title>
		<link>http://run.likethewind.ca/2008/malcolmx/comment-page-1/#comment-8126</link>
		<dc:creator>fathima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14079432&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NPR Â» An Author&#039;s Companion in Rage, Exile and Return&lt;/a&gt;
Eboo Patel talks about his experiences reading Baldwin. It mirrors my own experiences reading Malcolm X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14079432" rel="nofollow">NPR Â» An Author&#8217;s Companion in Rage, Exile and Return</a><br />
Eboo Patel talks about his experiences reading Baldwin. It mirrors my own experiences reading Malcolm X.</p>
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		<title>By: fathima</title>
		<link>http://run.likethewind.ca/2008/malcolmx/comment-page-1/#comment-8124</link>
		<dc:creator>fathima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so i just finished reading &lt;em&gt;Malcolm X&lt;/em&gt; for the third time. the insides of my eyelids may have pricked a little when it got to the assassination. and then there was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/071.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ossie Davis&#039;s eulogy&lt;/a&gt;, of course.
but this third time reading the book, i was pretty bowled over by Malcolm&#039;s sexism. it gets toned down from borderline misogyny to condescending paternalism near the end, though irritating nonetheless. but then, in the things he says to Haley, that aren&#039;t part of the strictly autobiographical part of the text, he expresses a lot more nuance, especially in his relations with Ella and Betty. so in a sense, this book feels almost like a misguided approach to learning about Malcolm as a man, because prior to his break with &lt;acronym title=&quot;Nation of Islam&quot;&gt;NoI&lt;/acronym&gt;, everything he said to Haley was said in its service. and everything he said after the break, he said to compensate for his previous speech.
so now i just don&#039;t know what i believe reading this. in particular, i don&#039;t know how to tease his gender issues out of his rhetoric.
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&lt;strong&gt;rawi&lt;/strong&gt;,
&lt;em&gt;malcolm was probably less about the activism than about the conversion narrative&lt;/em&gt;
yeah, i think that&#039;s true for most young muslims. and there&#039;s a part of me, out of respect for my teenage self and my friends, that doesn&#039;t want to dismiss that or trivialise it entirely. i think we&#039;re sorely lacking, as a community, for figures like Malcolm, so it&#039;s understandable that we read that need into his story. especially when it was genuinely integral to the many changes that constituted that his life.
but there&#039;s another part of me, of course, that wants to tear apart that reading entirely. and that considers that effort a labour of love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so i just finished reading <em>Malcolm X</em> for the third time. the insides of my eyelids may have pricked a little when it got to the assassination. and then there was <a href="http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/071.html" rel="nofollow">Ossie Davis&#8217;s eulogy</a>, of course.<br />
but this third time reading the book, i was pretty bowled over by Malcolm&#8217;s sexism. it gets toned down from borderline misogyny to condescending paternalism near the end, though irritating nonetheless. but then, in the things he says to Haley, that aren&#8217;t part of the strictly autobiographical part of the text, he expresses a lot more nuance, especially in his relations with Ella and Betty. so in a sense, this book feels almost like a misguided approach to learning about Malcolm as a man, because prior to his break with <acronym title="Nation of Islam">NoI</acronym>, everything he said to Haley was said in its service. and everything he said after the break, he said to compensate for his previous speech.<br />
so now i just don&#8217;t know what i believe reading this. in particular, i don&#8217;t know how to tease his gender issues out of his rhetoric.<br />
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<p><strong>rawi</strong>,<br />
<em>malcolm was probably less about the activism than about the conversion narrative</em><br />
yeah, i think that&#8217;s true for most young muslims. and there&#8217;s a part of me, out of respect for my teenage self and my friends, that doesn&#8217;t want to dismiss that or trivialise it entirely. i think we&#8217;re sorely lacking, as a community, for figures like Malcolm, so it&#8217;s understandable that we read that need into his story. especially when it was genuinely integral to the many changes that constituted that his life.<br />
but there&#8217;s another part of me, of course, that wants to tear apart that reading entirely. and that considers that effort a labour of love.</p>
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		<title>By: rawi</title>
		<link>http://run.likethewind.ca/2008/malcolmx/comment-page-1/#comment-8131</link>
		<dc:creator>rawi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fathima: a remarkable post, and i don&#039;t know where i can begin to respond--perhaps precisely because my thoughts are muddled by my own nostalgia for those teenage years when i thought reading malcolm&#039;s autobiography was possibly the best thing to happen in life. i even recall describing incidents from the book to my mom during a bus ride to the countryside, because she wanted to know what i was reading. it&#039;s funny though, because back then i had no more than a bookish knowledge of what it means to live in overtly racialised societies (i was, after all, reading malcolm x in bangladesh).

funny, also, that the first time i finally got to see the movie was at college when we screened it one night during IAW (for which i did the poster!)

your comments on the wider muslim appropriation of malcolm are an excellent point of departure for further research on this. after all, most muslims read the autobiography &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; he was muslim. for me back then, malcolm was probably less about the activism than about the conversion narrative (even as i had a fair bit of the young activist&#039;s rage...). malcolm happened to be a particularly inspiring case of the typical conversion narrative so popular in muslim circles. in fact, i think the first time i read an excerpt from the autobiography was in an anthology called &quot;why i became muslim&quot;

p.s. i too have been meaning to read fanon for quite some time. hopefully soon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fathima: a remarkable post, and i don&#8217;t know where i can begin to respond&#8211;perhaps precisely because my thoughts are muddled by my own nostalgia for those teenage years when i thought reading malcolm&#8217;s autobiography was possibly the best thing to happen in life. i even recall describing incidents from the book to my mom during a bus ride to the countryside, because she wanted to know what i was reading. it&#8217;s funny though, because back then i had no more than a bookish knowledge of what it means to live in overtly racialised societies (i was, after all, reading malcolm x in bangladesh).</p>
<p>funny, also, that the first time i finally got to see the movie was at college when we screened it one night during IAW (for which i did the poster!)</p>
<p>your comments on the wider muslim appropriation of malcolm are an excellent point of departure for further research on this. after all, most muslims read the autobiography <i>because</i> he was muslim. for me back then, malcolm was probably less about the activism than about the conversion narrative (even as i had a fair bit of the young activist&#8217;s rage&#8230;). malcolm happened to be a particularly inspiring case of the typical conversion narrative so popular in muslim circles. in fact, i think the first time i read an excerpt from the autobiography was in an anthology called &#8220;why i became muslim&#8221;</p>
<p>p.s. i too have been meaning to read fanon for quite some time. hopefully soon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fathima</title>
		<link>http://run.likethewind.ca/2008/malcolmx/comment-page-1/#comment-8134</link>
		<dc:creator>fathima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you&#039;re right
i just personally get uncomfortable around &#039;saints&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you&#8217;re right<br />
i just personally get uncomfortable around &#8216;saints&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: bdr</title>
		<link>http://run.likethewind.ca/2008/malcolmx/comment-page-1/#comment-8132</link>
		<dc:creator>bdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a relevant note, your use of the word &#039;hagriophically&#039; caught my eye, b/c it brings to mind that in many ways, El Hajj Maalik is truly the first American Muslim &#039;saint.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a relevant note, your use of the word &#8216;hagriophically&#8217; caught my eye, b/c it brings to mind that in many ways, El Hajj Maalik is truly the first American Muslim &#8216;saint.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: fathima</title>
		<link>http://run.likethewind.ca/2008/malcolmx/comment-page-1/#comment-8129</link>
		<dc:creator>fathima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;bdr&lt;/strong&gt;,
i have kind of a crush on Huey. problematic, i know. given he&#039;s twelve and all.

&lt;strong&gt;adnan&lt;/strong&gt;,
&lt;em&gt;regardless of the political or religious influences.&lt;/em&gt;
at the risk of sounding single-minded, i will say that i don&#039;t much like those kinds of readings. they neutralise his life entirely so as to render the book little more than a sort of new-age coming-of-age story. and if you can talk about malcolm x - and i&#039;m not saying &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; are - as purely an exercise in self-realisation, as though this self-knowledge exists outside of the realms of politics/religion/culture, then i really don&#039;t want to talk to you.

&lt;strong&gt;yasmine&lt;/strong&gt;,
yes, a lot of muslims do say this. and for this reason, come &lt;acronym title=&quot;Islamic Awareness Week&quot;&gt;IAW&lt;/acronym&gt;, every &lt;acronym title=&quot;Muslim Students Association&quot;&gt;MSA&lt;/acronym&gt; across the continent drops his name and has at least one event about him, and - i say this having designed posters for said events - this makes me deeply uncomfortable. it feels too easy, too comfortable, far too superficial. what happens after we have our obligatory movie night? how would this be different if Malcolm weren&#039;t so inexplicably popular in mainstream cultures? is he really just a Muslim MLK? because he&#039;s not, really. and should not be presented as such. but that&#039;s what i feel happens.
yes, most people (and muslims) i know have read the book. but - and this will make me sound elitist - i was thinking of only a very few friends when i wrote this.
and not all of those friends are muslim. - which is another thing i want to think about: how muslim youth and non-muslim youth differ in their readings. i think that there must be a significant difference, just because Malcolm &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; muslim. and at some point, for my (muslim) friends and me anyway, it became apparent that Malcolm&#039;s being muslim meant more and less than we&#039;d initially assumed. first, his faith guaranteed nothing in terms of his politics; and second, the chronology of his faith is a lot more complicated than the straightforward progress narrative a lot of muslims claim Malcolm demonstrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>bdr</strong>,<br />
i have kind of a crush on Huey. problematic, i know. given he&#8217;s twelve and all.</p>
<p><strong>adnan</strong>,<br />
<em>regardless of the political or religious influences.</em><br />
at the risk of sounding single-minded, i will say that i don&#8217;t much like those kinds of readings. they neutralise his life entirely so as to render the book little more than a sort of new-age coming-of-age story. and if you can talk about malcolm x &#8211; and i&#8217;m not saying <em>you</em> are &#8211; as purely an exercise in self-realisation, as though this self-knowledge exists outside of the realms of politics/religion/culture, then i really don&#8217;t want to talk to you.</p>
<p><strong>yasmine</strong>,<br />
yes, a lot of muslims do say this. and for this reason, come <acronym title="Islamic Awareness Week">IAW</acronym>, every <acronym title="Muslim Students Association">MSA</acronym> across the continent drops his name and has at least one event about him, and &#8211; i say this having designed posters for said events &#8211; this makes me deeply uncomfortable. it feels too easy, too comfortable, far too superficial. what happens after we have our obligatory movie night? how would this be different if Malcolm weren&#8217;t so inexplicably popular in mainstream cultures? is he really just a Muslim MLK? because he&#8217;s not, really. and should not be presented as such. but that&#8217;s what i feel happens.<br />
yes, most people (and muslims) i know have read the book. but &#8211; and this will make me sound elitist &#8211; i was thinking of only a very few friends when i wrote this.<br />
and not all of those friends are muslim. &#8211; which is another thing i want to think about: how muslim youth and non-muslim youth differ in their readings. i think that there must be a significant difference, just because Malcolm <em>was</em> muslim. and at some point, for my (muslim) friends and me anyway, it became apparent that Malcolm&#8217;s being muslim meant more and less than we&#8217;d initially assumed. first, his faith guaranteed nothing in terms of his politics; and second, the chronology of his faith is a lot more complicated than the straightforward progress narrative a lot of muslims claim Malcolm demonstrated.</p>
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		<title>By: yasmine</title>
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		<dc:creator>yasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I shall return later to comment on this post more in depth. For now, though, I wanted to say that I&#039;ve never read The Autobiography of Malcolm X, even though we have a couple of copies sitting &#039;round here at home. Is that kind of ridiculous? Every other Muslim I know has waxed poetically about how it was a life-changing book for him/her. I wish I had read it as a teenager, too, so I could re-read it again now and see how my views had changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I shall return later to comment on this post more in depth. For now, though, I wanted to say that I&#8217;ve never read The Autobiography of Malcolm X, even though we have a couple of copies sitting &#8217;round here at home. Is that kind of ridiculous? Every other Muslim I know has waxed poetically about how it was a life-changing book for him/her. I wish I had read it as a teenager, too, so I could re-read it again now and see how my views had changed.</p>
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